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This chat was an unmitigated delight—so much so, we did it twice. (Details in the episode.) As usual, this transcript faithfully reflects the content and tone of our conversation, with some judicious editing to make sure things read smoothly. Show notes are included after this transcript. (If you somehow stumbled across this post without knowing about the podcast episode, hi! Here’s …

This was one of my earliest interviews, in November 2025. Jenny’s frankness had us each sharing some personal insights about joy, and also, not coincidentally, about the roller-coaster ride of being a professional writer. As usual, I’ve edited this transcript to be faithful to our conversation, and left off some extraneous noises and repetitions to help things along. Show notes …